The person I was talking to is someone I know offline, and I've seen her when people are talking about different explanations for things. She gets this look on her face when someone suggests a common sense explanation for things suggesting that she'll consider any explanation except that one. It's almost as if she's so determined to side with the misunderstood "spiritual" people that she refuses to understand that sometimes the washing machine stops working properly because something's physically wrong with it rather than because she wasn't meant to wash that load of clothes today.